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  Not training speakers/teachers any more?

  by eyeslice2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not having attended any meetings since about 2001, for reasons of safety (sounds a bit dramatic but i don't like my wife being out on her own late at night where we live now), i have started accompanying her to the mid-week meeting.. when i was young, the ministry school and service meeting were central to training brothers to take the lead.

  you were assigned instruction talks, then if you cut it, you moved pretty rapidly to public talks - a full 55 mins at the time.

  i was just 18 years old when i gave my first public talk and this was a first step to moving rapidly through the ranks.

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  joey jojo

  Wow Jook - written review, I haven't heard that phrase for so long. Just reading the words written review did things to my head.
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  Not training speakers/teachers any more?

  by eyeslice2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not having attended any meetings since about 2001, for reasons of safety (sounds a bit dramatic but i don't like my wife being out on her own late at night where we live now), i have started accompanying her to the mid-week meeting.. when i was young, the ministry school and service meeting were central to training brothers to take the lead.

  you were assigned instruction talks, then if you cut it, you moved pretty rapidly to public talks - a full 55 mins at the time.

  i was just 18 years old when i gave my first public talk and this was a first step to moving rapidly through the ranks.

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  joey jojo

  I was having a debate via text message with a pimi elder friend recently and what struck me was his complete inability to use his own brain to reason.

  I know this isn't that surprising for a Jw but any question I asked was answered with a link to jw org. He wasn't willing or able to discuss anything that required him using his own critical thinking.

  It became obvious that if I didn't accept without question the articles in the links he provided, that it was my problem. He wasn't interested in whether they answered my question or not and he refused to discuss it further.

  So yes, I have witnessed the outcome of an 'education' program which is literally making people more stupid.
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  WT study 8 December

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  had to look.

  first paragraph mentions that most of were probably born after 1914. most?

  i bet the dubs 105 and older can be counted on your fingers..

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  joey jojo

  Road to nowhere,

  It would be interesting to see if anyone on this forum knows any living dubs as old as 105.

  I have lived in a lot of places and been a member of 8 congs in 3 different states and I can't think of anyone that old.

  I know a few in their 90's, as would most people, but that's it.
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  Truth vs Myth- how to spot the difference

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  myth:.

  speculation... .

  expectation... .

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  joey jojo

  Myth:

  Speculation...

  Expectation...

  Disappointment.

  Truth:

  Speculation...

  Evidence...

  Verification.
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  Vera de Saint Croix

  by Anna Marina in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  anyone heard of vera de saint croix?

  if fred franz had got married she would have been the one he would have married.

  she wasn't his girlfriend but she was a very special lady to him.. that's all i know.

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  joey jojo

  'I've been disfellowshipped... for being able to count and read.'

  Ha ha, that pretty much sums it up.
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  Do You Think “Higher Education “Is All That??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as jehovah’s witnesses, we were regularly told how awful a college education is.

  i’m no longer associated with the religion but i am not so pro university.

  it’s not because i think you are better off without a degree.

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  joey jojo

  I haven't read through the entire thread so maybe someone else has made a similar comment...

  If you are asking, is Uni essential to become wealthy and successful and having fulfilment in life, then no, it's not all that.

  However, it would have been nice to have been allowed to make the choice and have parents that nurtured dreams and ambitions, because some ambitions can only grow by being formally trained.
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  Is a jw condemned for lack of belief.

  by Crazyguy2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if someone lacks belief is that somehow mean he’s done in their eyes and no way back?

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  joey jojo

  Witnesses are ok with the fact that they can preach something to the world, while claiming to represent God, that turns out later to be wrong.

  No punishment needed.

  But if you point out to them that they were wrong and they are now preaching a different belief, then they will punish you for demonstrating a lack of faith and most likely shun you.

  It's happening to me right now.
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  How old is old?

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  having a conversation with a pimi elder and i asked him how he deals with the fact that he never expected to get old.

  i get the feeling that some dubs still have the original generation explanation hard-wired, even though they claim to accept the new version.

  so my question is, how old do you have to be to be considered old?

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  joey jojo

  Having a conversation with a pimi elder and I asked him how he deals with the fact that he never expected to get old. He is 51.

  He goes on to tell me that he still isn't old. I get the feeling that some dubs still have the original generation explanation hard-wired, even though they claim to accept the new version.

  So my question is, how old do you have to be to be considered old?

  I'm not talking about being as old as you feel, or being as old as the woman or man you're feeling. 🤔

  I think my friend is forgetting that 10 yrs goes fast and if I asked him the same question in 2029 would he still feel the same?
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  Advertising and the Melbourne International Convention

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  they keep confirming that religion is big business.the melbourne international convention is this weekend and i wish all the best to the activists who will be present.i came across this website set up for jws in attendence with comprehensive guides and information.

  it's obvious that it has been created by the jws since they write this under the rooming tab.

  we are all now free to book accommodation using the recommended lodging list (rll) which is provided on the rooming website!.

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  joey jojo

  https://www.c-mw.net/melbourne-to-witness-50000-delegates-in-one-week/

  'The event was secured by Melbourne Convention Bureau (MCB) with support from the Victorian State Government, City of Melbourne and industry suppliers, and will see close to 6,000 hotel rooms across 199 properties in Melbourne CBD and Metro areas occupied by the delegation, translating into 35,000 room nights for the state’s economy.'
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  The Latest From The Loony Left

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  so apparently, not only can people identify as men or women, regardless of reality, but they've now declared that people can identify as black or white as well!

  no word yet from rachel dolezal, who will no doubt be declared a visionary, and sadly michael jackson didn't live long enough to celebrate.. i must say, now that i am a black woman, my views on reparations have completely changed.

  y'all owe me some reparations bitches to make up for slavery yo.

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  joey jojo

  When I was a kid I thought I was Batman.

  Turns out I wasn't.